Tom and Kat caught up with Lisa Hamilton-Gibbs the author of The Gubyllub (which is Bully-bug backwards) to chat about the inspiration behind this book, it's handy resources and how a culture of bullying can be shifted by spreading and encouraging kindness towards ourselves and others.
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